·     No glyphs given in K&H, K&L, TOK, BMM9 as a logogram (current TOK example is taken from ka) – if not present in the inscriptions as a logogram for writing the Maya word kay, it could just mean that nobody had a name with “fish” in it (and no surviving scenes described actual fishes), not that it was no longer in use as a logogram (and only survived as ka).